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Dale McPeters 08-18-2005 11:47 AM

AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Anybody on the list running an AEM on a foxbody 88-93? If so where did you purchase it from? Also are you running in speed-density or maf mode?

Any info appreciated.

Thanks,
Dale McPeters

QWKSNKE 08-18-2005 07:20 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
I have heard it is suppose to be a nice setup but I haven't actually fooled with it

Wall96cobra 08-18-2005 07:26 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Seems like I've heard they were a pain to tune with and there wasn't much technical support for them. Try searching on turbomustangs.com there should be some info on them there.

93Cobra#2771 08-19-2005 09:04 AM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Couldn't be any less tech support for them vs. a tweecer... :(

Dale McPeters 08-20-2005 07:42 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 93Cobra#2771
Couldn't be any less tech support for them vs. a tweecer... :(

Unfortunately this is a very true statement Richard......:( .....
After all my years of support of the TwEECer & EEC-Tuner I have finally decided it is time to move on.....
I have found some base maps for the AEM to help with startup. I also found a writeup on turbomustangs.com. Very helpful info....
I also got an email from a guy that is running the FAST XFI system. May take a look at this also. Just need something before the first of next year.


Thanks guys,
Dale McPeters

QWKSNKE 08-20-2005 08:03 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Why are you switching Dale? Is just for a new challenge or do you think the AEM setup is better than tweecer?

Dale McPeters 08-21-2005 10:28 AM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by QWKSNKE
Why are you switching Dale?

One reason as stated above by Richard is the lack of Mike's input & software support lately on any of the different websites. The '05 release of software that has not happened yet and all of the unanswered emails that I have personnally sent to him about software issues. Another reason is I will not be limited by the Ford EEC's ability with rpm & injector size. I can also run in a speed density mode (kind of) if required.

Quote:

Originally Posted by QWKSNKE
Is just for a new challenge or do you think the AEM setup is better than tweecer?

Yep I would definately like a new challenge. Also would like to get away from all the hoopla that goes on between SCT and other companies including Diablo & TwEECer. Not trying to say that one is better than the other as each have some very good features of their own. But you can not even make a simple post on the Corral and a few other websites anymore without other people wanting to start an argument about who's software/hardware is the best and fastest and who knows more about what, this is one of the reasons that I have went into lurk mode.... ;) ...And one other reason is that half of the ones that start arguments do not even know how to disassemble a binary file to find the addresses that are needed to tune with...It used to be a fun hobby at one time but as my free time has been very very limited lately I just do not want to put up with the bull**** anymore.

Now on the subject of the AEM being a better system than the TwEECer or SCT for that matter, it all boiled down to the fact that I wanted CL fuel control at WOT. Either with a WB or EGT's and be able to run 96lb/hr injectors. I did not want to be limited on injector size if I needed to step up to larger ones. Also did not want to be limited in rpm potential as stated above. The Ford EEC in my '93gt that I am working on was not going to do what I need for my application. I really want a system that I can still use most of the stock sensors and not have to hack up my wiring harness. And so far the AEM is the only one that will do that to my feeble knowledge.

Boy that was a long winded post so back to lurk mode I go..... :chug:

QWKSNKE 08-21-2005 12:07 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale McPeters
One reason as stated above by Richard is the lack of Mike's input & software support lately on any of the different websites. The '05 release of software that has not happened yet and all of the unanswered emails that I have personnally sent to him about software issues. Another reason is I will not be limited by the Ford EEC's ability with rpm & injector size. I can also run in a speed density mode (kind of) if required.



Yep I would definately like a new challenge. Also would like to get away from all the hoopla that goes on between SCT and other companies including Diablo & TwEECer. Not trying to say that one is better than the other as each have some very good features of their own. But you can not even make a simple post on the Corral and a few other websites anymore without other people wanting to start an argument about who's software/hardware is the best and fastest and who knows more about what, this is one of the reasons that I have went into lurk mode.... ;) ...And one other reason is that half of the ones that start arguments do not even know how to disassemble a binary file to find the addresses that are needed to tune with...It used to be a fun hobby at one time but as my free time has been very very limited lately I just do not want to put up with the bull**** anymore.

Now on the subject of the AEM being a better system than the TwEECer or SCT for that matter, it all boiled down to the fact that I wanted CL fuel control at WOT. Either with a WB or EGT's and be able to run 96lb/hr injectors. I did not want to be limited on injector size if I needed to step up to larger ones. Also did not want to be limited in rpm potential as stated above. The Ford EEC in my '93gt that I am working on was not going to do what I need for my application. I really want a system that I can still use most of the stock sensors and not have to hack up my wiring harness. And so far the AEM is the only one that will do that to my feeble knowledge.

Boy that was a long winded post so back to lurk mode I go..... :chug:

yeah, I haven't been a corral or stangnet poster in a long time.

Pulling you out of lurk mode again :D ....

So, there is a point where the Ford EEC cannot do the job. Is this from a street drivability standpoint or max performance. Also, at what point is it borderline that the Ford EEC with any type of tuner is not enough?

Not asking these questions to start an argument. Asking purely for future knowledge.

QWKSNKE 08-21-2005 12:09 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
By the way Dale,

What kind of car and what is your setup?

Then you can go back to lurking

86GT 08-21-2005 03:17 PM

Re: AEM For 88-93 Fox?
 
The main limitation of the EEC-IV is the internal clock speed. The EEC-IV are pron to have problems if the car is rev'd above 7000 RPM. There are a few people out there that have been able to change the crystal of the EEC and get the RPMs above 7000. This also has its draw backs. Any function or table and so on that uses the crystal to calculate a certain value is affected. A good example would be the rev limiter which uses the PIP and clock frequency.

In my opinion if you are reving above 7K then the EEC is not a good route. The AEM maybe the best way to go but it does have a big cost factor with it.

Just my two cents


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