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Old 02-11-2006, 05:25 PM   #41
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Re: Hypereutectic vs. Forged

Not all Hypereutectic pistons are the same, The KBs have a higher silicon content than most the others. If your going to build a mild N/A or keep the boost under 10psi then there is nothing wrong with Hypereutectic pistons, If your planning on lots of HP then go forged. The reason for the hypereutectic piston popularity is because with low thermal expansion characteristics it can run in a tighter bore which promotes stability and strength. The problem is that hypereutectic pistons are soo hard they are brittle and forged are more ductile, Forged pistons are more forgivable where hypereutectics will fail in a catastropic manner with little to no warning. A forged piston will fail though too, Its more of a tuning failure than overpowering the piston material.
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:18 PM   #42
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Not all Hypereutectic pistons are the same, The KBs have a higher silicon content than most the others. If your going to build a mild N/A or keep the boost under 10psi then there is nothing wrong with Hypereutectic pistons, If your planning on lots of HP then go forged. The reason for the hypereutectic piston popularity is because with low thermal expansion characteristics it can run in a tighter bore which promotes stability and strength. The problem is that hypereutectic pistons are soo hard they are brittle and forged are more ductile, Forged pistons are more forgivable where hypereutectics will fail in a catastropic manner with little to no warning. A forged piston will fail though too, Its more of a tuning failure than overpowering the piston material.
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:05 PM   #43
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Re: Hypereutectic vs. Forged

I did not know there was even a debate possible on this subject... Hypathetic Pistons vs a Forged Pistons... Hmmmm, not really a hard descision for me at all... I dont car if I got a motor to build with 100 hp and 1 to build with 500 hp... it is gonna have a forged piston in it.... but... you can't fix stupid either... that is all I got to say.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:19 PM   #44
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Well okay then. At least now though, maybe you can understand the difference in the two and maybe contribute something next time it is discussed.
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Ex. say you were in college and was having to work part time to get your car running and it was your only transportation, you would want to get it running ASAP and cheaply as possible.
Why do stupid people do this?
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right on dude... building a motor with hypathetic pistons is like wiping your butt before you take a dump...it just does not make any sense... it is like they wany to make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t... then they are like..."it was a 100 shot... why did my piston turn to dust...?"
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wiping your butt before you take a dump...make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t
Does that make any sense?

Like stated before.

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I think for a budget and for a street mild strip (with no power adder) they are fine.
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If your going to build a mild N/A or keep the boost under 10psi then there is nothing wrong with Hypereutectic pistons
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For a budget street/strip motor, you will be fine with hypers. For something serious, that you intend on hard-use with a power-adder, go ahead & put some forged in there...Hypereutectic would do just fine for the average street-strip car.
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Does that make any sense?

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