Race Tire Compund Discussion (SPLIT TOPIC: My new Bling! DUW)

[Italian LX]

Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

Why does every contructive discussion in a technical thread have be a gay fight?

[TheJeanyus]

Like you said, it's sort of a pointless discussion like the definition of what "stock" is. I don't think there's any rule set in stone for the precise definition of street tires or race tires.

[svopaul]

Originally Posted by Italian LX

Therefore, your statement about all DOT tires working well with standard weather issues is wrong.

Show me were I said "ALL"... You assumed I meant all....as stated above, my point in this entire post was regarding the tires Nathan specified as "Non street tires" which are tires from 160-250 in treadwear rating.

[svopaul]

Originally Posted by TheJeanyus

Like you said, it's sort of a pointless discussion like the definition of what "stock" is. I don't think there's any rule set in stone for the precise definition of street tires or race tires.

I don't think it is anywhere near the "stock" discussion....and although it's not a "set in stone rule", I go by what the Tire industry uses as standards for tires. Nathan's "opinion" may be different but it's an opinion whereas I consider what the entire industry uses as the actual fact of a tire description.

At this point though it has gotten to the pointless level....I provided facts from the tire industry to show my point on why a 160-250 treadwear tire IS in fact a "street" tire. Unless facts can be shown to the contrary it is no longer a valid arguement and just "opinions".

[tacbear]

[Sendero]

Originally Posted by svopaul

At this point though it has gotten to the pointless level....I provided facts from the tire industry to show my point on why a 160-250 treadwear tire IS in fact a "street" tire. Unless facts can be shown to the contrary it is no longer a valid arguement and just "opinions".

Originally Posted by svopaul

A Street tire by definition is a tire that meets DOT requirements for use on a public road.

The so which argument are you using, the industry or DOT? Choose carefully because it matters...

Originally Posted by svopaul

I don't know about those but I do know for a fact that Nitto Drag Radials work pretty well in the rain.....solid rain on a 1000 mile trip from NJ to TN in sometimes extreme downpours....a Friends SVO never once lost traction....so yes, I would consider them "streetable"....though not technically a "street tire".

They've got a DOT approved number for use on the street. Therefore it makes them a street tire by your definition above right?

Originally Posted by svopaul

The category for "race" tires is:
-Competition (IE: BFG G-Force T/A Drag Radial/ Kumho Victoracer V700)

DOT approved, so its available for use on the street and a street tire by your definition above.

[Italian LX]

Originally Posted by svopaul

Show me were I said "ALL"...

Okay, here you go:

Originally Posted by svopaul

A Street tire by definition is a tire that meets DOT requirements for use on a public road....meaning that it will work well with standard weather issues such as rain and hot dry days....

In your statement, you are calling ALL tires that meets DOT requirements a "street tire" and that they work well in the rain... shall I remind you that ET Streets and Quicktime Pros meet DOT requirements.

. . . would you like to retract your statement now?

[svopaul]

OK, maybe DOT wasn't the best choice....regardless show me how you can justify that a tire treadwear rating of 160-250 is NOT a street tire by YOUR definition?


You want to harp on DOT and maybe that wasn't my best choice of an example but it was late in the day....you still are dancing around or ignoring everything else I brought up.....therefore making the rest of this a waste of time

Treadwear rating of 160-250 = NOT a "street tire"....I'm waiting...

[svopaul]

Come on now Brian and Nathan.....try to Gig me on some trivial unrelated minor detail (DOT) really unrelated to the original issue and avoid the actual issue I am presenting??

[Sendero]

Originally Posted by svopaul

OK, maybe DOT wasn't the best choice....regardless show me how you can justify that a tire treadwear rating of 160-250 is NOT a street tire by YOUR definition?


You want to harp on DOT and maybe that wasn't my best choice of an example but it was late in the day....you still are dancing around or ignoring everything else I brought up.....therefore making the rest of this a waste of time

Treadwear rating of 160-250 = NOT a "street tire"....I'm waiting...

Thats funny. Your gording me into proving to you that X is not Y when I never presented it as fact. This line of reasoning smells of straw man fallacy considering I never presented my "opinions" as law. Remember, you challenged my reasoning.