Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection

boss96 · 08-06-2005, 11:03 AM

I put the Snow Perf kit on the car recently and I have to say it is the best thing added to the car in a long time. Running 93 octane I could only run 13 degrees timing max under boost, with the water/methanol mix the octane jumps to 120 and I am now running 22 degrees timing with no ping. Just like running race gas but significantly cheaper. I buy a few bottles of HEET at Pep Boys for about $1.00 each, mix it with water 50/50 and I'm done.
I have it set to activate at 2.9 volts maf, the a/f goes dramatically richer at that point, iat temps go down to less than 130 degrees. You have to lean out the a/f in the "stab OL tables" to run it, a/f goes almost 2 pt's richer when it is on.
I would recommend this kit if you are running a blower to reach the max potential of you combo.
Bob

QWKSNKE · 08-06-2005, 04:44 PM

How much does it cost for the kit and how long does it last?

Wicked · 08-06-2005, 04:52 PM

$300 for stage 1.
$400 for stage 2.

www.snowperformance.net

Not sure how long a tank lasts but it 2 qts.

boss96 · 08-06-2005, 07:35 PM

I bought a bigger bottle to hold the water, it's an overflow tank for radiators and cost about $10.00. I can't see running out of water all that fast unless you are constantly on boost. Just check the level for awhile to get a feel for how much you use.
Bob

EZ SPEED · 08-07-2005, 03:04 AM

A lot of Gen 2 Lightning guys are also seeing great gains with those kits

Here is a link to a discussion about it.
http://www.f150online.com/forums/sho...1&page=1&pp=15

After reading the recent posts...I might have to order one of these Really Soon !!

hevymtl · 08-07-2005, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KB ZILLA

A lot of Gen 2 Lightning guys are also seeing great gains with those kits

Here is a link to a discussion about it.
http://www.f150online.com/forums/sho...1&page=1&pp=15

After reading the recent posts...I might have to order one of these Really Soon !!

Which stage are the gen 2 guys starting to use?

EZ SPEED · 08-07-2005, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevymtl

Which stage are the gen 2 guys starting to use?

Depends on your rwhp....the 600+ rwhp guys use the stage 2 MAF

boss96 · 08-08-2005, 09:02 AM

About Lightnings and cobras, a friend of mine is owner/partner of RazorsEdge in Fla and they do a lot of those cars using Snows kit. One problem he said they have is they do not have enough spark energy to fire the WI using the bigger jet that comes with the kit and therefore are not able to get the best reductions in iat temps that using the bigger jet would do. They still get pretty good increases using the smaller jet but they are looking into some kind of spark amplifier to make it work really well.
Right now the options for a COP car are 2 MSD DIS4's, the plasma booster, and the KB boost a spark.
On my car using the small jet did not really reduce the iat's all that much, going bigger made a big difference, but then again I have the DIS HO box.
Bob

QWKSNKE · 08-08-2005, 09:59 AM

I think I may look into a purchase in the future

joker · 08-08-2005, 09:45 PM

Just saw this and figured I would throw it out here, somebody on bham racing is trying to put together a group buy with snow performance. You will have to sign up to see the thread I believe.

http://forums.bhamracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28

08-06-2005, 11:03 AM	#1
boss96 Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection I put the Snow Perf kit on the car recently and I have to say it is the best thing added to the car in a long time. Running 93 octane I could only run 13 degrees timing max under boost, with the water/methanol mix the octane jumps to 120 and I am now running 22 degrees timing with no ping. Just like running race gas but significantly cheaper. I buy a few bottles of HEET at Pep Boys for about $1.00 each, mix it with water 50/50 and I'm done. I have it set to activate at 2.9 volts maf, the a/f goes dramatically richer at that point, iat temps go down to less than 130 degrees. You have to lean out the a/f in the "stab OL tables" to run it, a/f goes almost 2 pt's richer when it is on. I would recommend this kit if you are running a blower to reach the max potential of you combo. Bob __________________ 1996 GT, forged parts, vortech, ZXA3 processor, etc.

08-06-2005, 04:44 PM	#2
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection How much does it cost for the kit and how long does it last? __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

08-06-2005, 04:52 PM	#3
Wicked Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pell City, AL Posts: 1,371	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection $300 for stage 1. $400 for stage 2. www.snowperformance.net Not sure how long a tank lasts but it 2 qts. __________________ 2001 Cobra 'Vert Procharged and Intercooled 455rwhp/441rwtq Work Car: 2005 Honda Odyssey 400 whp Turbo V6, 6-speed, full cage, H&R Suspension, Brembo Brakes

08-06-2005, 07:35 PM	#4
boss96 Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection I bought a bigger bottle to hold the water, it's an overflow tank for radiators and cost about $10.00. I can't see running out of water all that fast unless you are constantly on boost. Just check the level for awhile to get a feel for how much you use. Bob __________________ 1996 GT, forged parts, vortech, ZXA3 processor, etc.

08-07-2005, 03:04 AM	#5
EZ SPEED Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tempe Arizona Posts: 3,029	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection A lot of Gen 2 Lightning guys are also seeing great gains with those kits Here is a link to a discussion about it. http://www.f150online.com/forums/sho...1&page=1&pp=15 After reading the recent posts...I might have to order one of these Really Soon !! __________________ 2020 Range Rover Sport HSE P525 Dynamic - Firenze Red - Supercharged 5.0 - 518 HP SOLD - 2010 Camaro SS [/B] - Featured in GM High Tech Performance and Camaro Now Magazines - http://www.superchevy.com/features/g...of-perfection/

08-08-2005, 09:02 AM	#8
boss96 Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection About Lightnings and cobras, a friend of mine is owner/partner of RazorsEdge in Fla and they do a lot of those cars using Snows kit. One problem he said they have is they do not have enough spark energy to fire the WI using the bigger jet that comes with the kit and therefore are not able to get the best reductions in iat temps that using the bigger jet would do. They still get pretty good increases using the smaller jet but they are looking into some kind of spark amplifier to make it work really well. Right now the options for a COP car are 2 MSD DIS4's, the plasma booster, and the KB boost a spark. On my car using the small jet did not really reduce the iat's all that much, going bigger made a big difference, but then again I have the DIS HO box. Bob __________________ 1996 GT, forged parts, vortech, ZXA3 processor, etc.

08-08-2005, 09:59 AM	#9
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection I think I may look into a purchase in the future __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

08-08-2005, 09:45 PM	#10
joker Friends Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Colorado Posts: 2,452	Re: Supercharged guys: I REALLY like water/alc injection Just saw this and figured I would throw it out here, somebody on bham racing is trying to put together a group buy with snow performance. You will have to sign up to see the thread I believe. http://forums.bhamracing.com/forumdisplay.php?f=28

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