Starting Problem!HELP

oo-gonzo · 08-10-2007, 01:40 PM

I have an 87 GT (None MAS air). I just got it and no only that it had a 90 model engine put in it. The Trans was also rebuilt. Odom shows 162K. Engine supposedly had 126K on it.
What it's doing: Usually cranks right up on second try. Then it started doing this: Turn the ignition over, engine turns over but doesn't crank. Try it again and the engine starts and dies immediatly. After that you can turn the ignition switch all day and get nothing. No clicking, buzzing, just dead silence.
What I have tried: Itried jumping the starter solenoid with a screw driver. Engine turned over a few times and finally cranked. Good thing cause I was stranded at the gym. SO, I went and bought a new solenoid. Put it on and tried it. The engine turned over but would not crank. The next try was dead. Turn the switch and get nothing. Tried jumping the solenoid again and the engine just turns and turns but will not crank.
The battery is fine as well as the connections. I do not know where to go from here. HELP!

EHardy1971 · 08-10-2007, 02:25 PM

can you hear if the fuel pump is kicking on?

SkurdalenFox · 08-10-2007, 02:27 PM

What do you mean by, "turns over but doesn't crank"

Do you loose all power - dome light, radio, everything - after you try to start it the first time?

89five0Gt · 08-10-2007, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHardy1971

can you hear if the fuel pump is kicking on?

mine was acting that way last year. when it did turn over, it was skipping. you could hear my fuel pump kick on, but it sounded weak. i put a new one in and its been fine every since

EHardy1971 · 08-10-2007, 05:49 PM

just remembered something,they had a factory recall on the 89's for the ignition switch,NOT the ignition lock (the part your key goes to),and when my coupe still had the 2.3,it started the same shit!,I had to literally stop on the road one night,pull the steering column collar off,wad up a handfull of napkins,put them in the collar under the connector and screw it back together,because the connector on the switch was loose,and not making a good connection!,call ford with your VIN,and see if the recall repair was ever done!

QWKSNKE · 08-10-2007, 08:05 PM

Can you smell fuel if you continue turning the motor over?

natedawgg94 · 08-10-2007, 08:40 PM

i agree with the recall sounds like ignition switch to me

oo-gonzo · 08-11-2007, 08:22 AM

I can't smell any fuel. I think I hear the fuel pump, but not real sure. I don't lose power on anything, dome light works, door bell dings, ect.. It's like the switch just doesn't work, but it does every now and then. If it's just the switch, wouldn't it still start by jumping the solenoid? Could it be the switch and the fuel pump?

oo-gonzo · 08-11-2007, 08:23 AM

What I meant by turning over is- the engine is turning but will not run. You know, it's trying to crank, but won't.

EHardy1971 · 08-11-2007, 08:32 AM

the fuel pump relay is wired through the ignition switch in the column,the dome light,and door dinger are wired through the fuse box straight to the battery,I.E; constant power,with that switch recall problem I had with mine,it was identical!,only one side of the plug on the switch was making contact

08-10-2007, 01:40 PM	#1
oo-gonzo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gadsden, AL. Posts: 290	Starting Problem!HELP I have an 87 GT (None MAS air). I just got it and no only that it had a 90 model engine put in it. The Trans was also rebuilt. Odom shows 162K. Engine supposedly had 126K on it. What it's doing: Usually cranks right up on second try. Then it started doing this: Turn the ignition over, engine turns over but doesn't crank. Try it again and the engine starts and dies immediatly. After that you can turn the ignition switch all day and get nothing. No clicking, buzzing, just dead silence. What I have tried: Itried jumping the starter solenoid with a screw driver. Engine turned over a few times and finally cranked. Good thing cause I was stranded at the gym. SO, I went and bought a new solenoid. Put it on and tried it. The engine turned over but would not crank. The next try was dead. Turn the switch and get nothing. Tried jumping the solenoid again and the engine just turns and turns but will not crank. The battery is fine as well as the connections. I do not know where to go from here. HELP!

08-10-2007, 02:25 PM	#2
EHardy1971 Trunk Monkey Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Home Posts: 5,708	can you hear if the fuel pump is kicking on? __________________ Eric 89 LX Coupe-Juiced 01 Lightning-Boost 06 TBSS

08-10-2007, 02:27 PM	#3
SkurdalenFox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 463	What do you mean by, "turns over but doesn't crank" Do you loose all power - dome light, radio, everything - after you try to start it the first time? __________________ Jim

08-10-2007, 05:49 PM	#5
EHardy1971 Trunk Monkey Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Home Posts: 5,708	just remembered something,they had a factory recall on the 89's for the ignition switch,NOT the ignition lock (the part your key goes to),and when my coupe still had the 2.3,it started the same shit!,I had to literally stop on the road one night,pull the steering column collar off,wad up a handfull of napkins,put them in the collar under the connector and screw it back together,because the connector on the switch was loose,and not making a good connection!,call ford with your VIN,and see if the recall repair was ever done! __________________ Eric 89 LX Coupe-Juiced 01 Lightning-Boost 06 TBSS

08-10-2007, 08:05 PM	#6
QWKSNKE 3v's are slow Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Here and There Posts: 17,152	Can you smell fuel if you continue turning the motor over? __________________ 2009 Porsche Carrera S 2008 ///AMG C63.. Eurocharge Tune. RIP 2019 AMG GLC43..wife's 03 F250 SD.. Edge Evo, AFE Stage 1 CAI 08 GT. JBA axle back, FRPP springs, FRPP swaybars.. daughter's 01 Cobra vert... wife's I need a new toy

08-10-2007, 08:40 PM	#7
natedawgg94 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ohatchee, AL Posts: 713	i agree with the recall sounds like ignition switch to me __________________ 1994 Cobra Pace Car #365 of 1000 light mods 1994 mustang GT 3.55's, 331 stroker, 75mm tb, 75mm maf, mac h pipe SOLD (ole yella u will be missed ((>>. Rubbing Is Racing

08-11-2007, 08:22 AM	#8
oo-gonzo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gadsden, AL. Posts: 290	I can't smell any fuel. I think I hear the fuel pump, but not real sure. I don't lose power on anything, dome light works, door bell dings, ect.. It's like the switch just doesn't work, but it does every now and then. If it's just the switch, wouldn't it still start by jumping the solenoid? Could it be the switch and the fuel pump?

08-11-2007, 08:23 AM	#9
oo-gonzo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gadsden, AL. Posts: 290	What I meant by turning over is- the engine is turning but will not run. You know, it's trying to crank, but won't.

08-11-2007, 08:32 AM	#10
EHardy1971 Trunk Monkey Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Home Posts: 5,708	the fuel pump relay is wired through the ignition switch in the column,the dome light,and door dinger are wired through the fuse box straight to the battery,I.E; constant power,with that switch recall problem I had with mine,it was identical!,only one side of the plug on the switch was making contact __________________ Eric 89 LX Coupe-Juiced 01 Lightning-Boost 06 TBSS